John Joseph MANN was born Abt 1838 in
Tandaragee, County Armagh, Northern Ireland, and died 6 Dec 1924 in Prince
Albert Memorial Hospital, Tenterfield, New South Wales, Australia.
He
married Sarah Ellen Jane CARLYLE 22 Aug 1865 in
Presbyterian Church, Drayton, Queensland, Australia, daughter of John (Snr)
Carlyle and Sarah MCGlamah
She was born Abt 1846 in Glasgow, Scotland, and
died 4 Jun 1919 in Stanthorpe, , Queensland, Australia.
John and Sarah had a total of children Sarah Jane, Mary Anne John and Arthur while they lived at Brisbane Street Drayton.
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They moved to Stanthorpe and the last 8 children were born Isabell, George, William, Samuel, Alexander, James, Catherin Annies and Ethel Edith Maud
John died 6th December 1924 and at the Prince Albert Memorial Hospital Tenterfield, and is buried in Tenerfield Cemetery.
Miners working at St. Leonard's Tin Mine, Sugarloaf Creek near Stanthorpe, ca. 1873. Photograph by William Boag. State Library of Queensland.
John followed a number of callings during his lifetime. He was a labourer and carrier in Drayton Toowoomba a Tin Miner and later a Selector in the Stanthorpe District. John lived on two of the more famous tin mines the Brisbane and Melbourne claims. He had a selection in the vicinity of Fletcher near Glen Aplin. John was regarded as one of the pioneers of the Stanthorpe District and his photograph was hung in the Stanthorpe Schoolof Arts.
Quart Pot Creek in southeast Queensland starts below Bald Rock at an elevation of 964m and ends at an elevation of 781m flowing into the Severn River.
The Quart Pot Creek drops around 183m over its 32.2km length.
The Quart Pot Creek flows through Storm King Dam (877m) on its way to joining the Severn River.
Sarah Ellen Carlyle died 4th June 1919 in Stanthorpe.
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His Children
Sarah Jane was born 1866 and died in 1930 in Tenterfield She married Charles Ludvig Vock 1864 - 1933. They had 3 daughters. Jessie, Ruby and Emily
Mary Amelia was born 1867 and died 1952. She married Albert John Eastaughffe.
Albert was in the NSW Citizens Bushmen as a Trooper in B Squadron, and was sent to Boer War. He was injured and returned to Australia 6th August 1900
Rank: Trooper SN 70
Unit: New South Wales Citizen Bushmen
Conflict: South Africa, 1899-1902 (Boer War)
Native place: New South Wales, Australia
Notes: Murray Remarks: Invalided, Australia, arr. 06/08/1900
Source: Murray page number - 79
They had two daughters, Lillian May b 1903, Annie born 1904 and a son Albert John born 1905 d 1953. He married Margaret Fleming.
There are no records for Annie Ethel so she may have died at birth.
Albert and his family lived in Townsville.
John Mann orn 26th February 1869 died 18 June 1888 at Ballandean as a result of an accident, he was shot by his brother. There was an inquest.
John Mann's eldest son was accidently shot by his brother George. Evidence given by John Mann at the inquest reads as follows;-
John Mann upon his oath says as follows, I am a miner, and reside on Quart Pot Creek near the Brisbane Claim, about three or four miles from Stanthorpe.
I have got a selection down the Severn River about ten miles from Stanthorpe. I was down there last week, I left there last Sunday, leavingthere my three sons John, Arthur and George, at a hut which I
erected on my selection. On Tuesday morning on my way to my selection, inpassing Mrs Finnerty's
I heard that my boy John was shot. I then went to my selection, to the place where I left my three sons.
I arrived there between eleven and twelve o'clock on the day of the nineteenth of June 1888.
I there saw two Constables and Doctor Orton, and Mr Fletcher the Publican with William Wright snr and William Wright jnr.
After a little time I went int the hut, and saw a body lying in a pool of blood on the floor of the hut. I afterwards identified the body as thatof my son John.
I then afterwards brought the body into Stanthorpe.
I last saw my deceased son John alive on Sunday evening the seventeenth of June 1888. in my hut on my selection on the Severn River. My deceased son was seventeen years of age, my son Arthur is sixteen , and George is eleven in August next.
My sons were always friendly with each other.
John Mann
Taken and sworn before me at Stanthorpe in the said Colony on the day
and year first above mentioned.
POLLET CARDEW P.M.
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Arthur James Mann was born 1872 and died 1919.
He gave evidence to the enquiry about the shooting of his brother.
Arthur Mann was present when his brother John was accidently killed. His deposition at the inquest reads as follows;-
Arthur Mann upon his oath says as follows I am the age of sixteen years, and reside with my father at the Brisbane claim about three or four miles from Stanthorpe. I work with my father who is a tin miner.
I remember last Monday night the eighteenth of June 1888. I was in company with Thomas Walpole , a school teacher, George Mann and my other brother , John Mann the deceased.
We were shooting Opossums. We went out about seven o'clock on that evening, and returned about nine o'clock. (This was down the Severn River ten mile.) Thomas Walpole laid a gun which we were shooting with, he laid down the gun upon a bed in the hut belonging to my father, the muzzle of the gun was facing the wall the gun was at that time unloaded.
My brother John Mann the deceased said Thomas walpole you had better load up the gun, on which Thomas Walpole loaded the gun with shot and powder and capped the gun, and laid the gun upon the bed with the muzzle facing the walls.
My brother George Mann was sitting on the bed at the time, he lifted the gun from off the bed, and pointed towards my Brother John Mann , who was standing before the fire with his right side to the bed. I heard the gun go off. I was at the time sitting down by the fire, between the deceased John Mann and the bed.
I saw my brother John fall on his face. I then left the hut with Thomas Walpole and my brother George, and went to where William Wright lives.
I said to William Wright jnr My brother is shot. I stayed at Wrights all night up to 12 o'clock the next day.
I then returned to my fathers hut, and there saw my brother John laying on the ground.
I did not know when the gun went off that my brother George had his hand on the trigger.
After the gun went off I heard my brother George say, I did not think that the gun was loaded.
I did not hear my brother John speak after he fell. My brother George and the deceased were on friendly terms. The gun now shown to me is the same, and the gun which we wwere out shooting with, with Thomas Walpole.
When Thomas Walpole loaded the gun he loaded it with similar shot now shown to me.
his
Witness George Deucher
Arthur X mann
mark
Taken and sworn befor me at Stanthorpe in the said Colony on the day and
year first above mentioned POLLETCARDEW P.M.
Arthur Mann died in Stanthorp in 1919
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Isabell May Mann was born 1874 in Stanthorpe and died 1926 in Tenterfield. She married in 1899, John Macmullan Smith and they had nine children. They lived in Tenterfield. John was a miner and a blacksmith.
George Mann born 1875
Accidently shot his older brother John.
Evidence given by George at the inquest reads;-
George
Mann upon his oath says as follows, I am about eleven years old,and
reside with my father John Mann. I recollect last Monday, I was then on
my father's selection in company with my two brothers John and Arthur, I
saw Thomas Walpole the Teacher on that day.
We went out Opossum shooting with him, and afterwards went to my father's Hut with Walpole and my two brothers.
Walpole
had a gun with him which he brought into the hut, and put it on the
bed. I was sitting at the fire and afterwards went and sat on the bed
where the gun was lying. I heard my brother say load the gun, but did
not see it loaded. I afterwards took up the gun. The gun was not cocked,
the hammer was down on the nipple. I pointed it at my brother John, the
gun then went off, and I saw my brother John fall.
I then ran to William Wright's with Walpole, and my brother Arthur. I remained at Wrights place during the night.
When
I took up the gun and pointed it at my brother I put it on fullcock, I
did not see it was capped, as it was dark. I did not see anypersons load
the gun, I did not know the gun was loaded.
I had no quarrel with my brother, I only pointed the gun in fun, after I put the gun on cock, I pulled the tricker.
George Mann
Taken and sworn before me at Stanthorpe in the said colony on the day and year first above mentioned.
He enlisted in World war 1 when nearly 40.
MANN George : Service Number - 174 : Place of
Birth - Stanthorpe QLD : Place of Enlistment - Warwick QLD : Next of Kin
- (Mother) MANN Sarah EdithHe left Sydney on board the HMAT A38 Ulysses on 20th February 1916.
1914 - 1920 He was in the No1 Tunneling Company
'Work between Bony & Namur from 29 September 1918 to 20 December 1918.'
Recommendation date: 16 January 1919
Monument to the Tunnelers in Belgium
The small opening is the entry to one of the tunnels. They worked with the Canadians on Hill 60. It was one of the largest explosions ever, and could be heard in England.
German bunkers
George returned to Australia 20 April 1919
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Samuel Mann born 1878 died 1945. Samuel married Caroline Rose in 1907. They lived in Stanthorpe
Alexander Andrew Mann was born 7th May 1880 and died 2nd December 1949.
When he was born they were living on the Melbourne Claim near Stanthorpe.
Alexander was known as Bert, and he married Charlotte May Burrows in Glen Aplin in 1906 and had eleven children.
Alexander and Charlotte had seven sons, all served in Australian forces. How worring for the poor parents. Six were in World War 2 and one in Korea. Ken Mann and Walter Mann were killed, and Ben was wounded.
These poor parents, 6 boys in the same War.
The children and their links to the War:
I
vy Elizabeth Mann b 1906 d 1999 m William Richard Page
Albert Andrew Mann b 21 Nov 1907 m Eveline Cora Whitehead. He died 1970
He left Brisbane on SS Duntroon and went to Morotai. He fought in British North Borneo
Charlotte Mary Mann b 13 Sept 1909 m Blaney Clive Boston
Elsie Harriet Mann b 8 Aug 1911 d 1999 m Ernest Ashton b 1911 d 1967
Walter Alexander Mann also died. 9th Division
MANN WALTER ALEXANDER : Service Number - QX16755 : Date of birth - 28 Jun 1913 : Place of birth - STANTHORPE QLD
Place of enlistment - TOOWOOMBA QLD : Next of Kin - MANN ALEXANDER Walter died 22nd July 1942 in El Alamein Egypt.
QX26755 A.I.F. 2/24 Bn Australian Infantry. XVI B.6.
Kenneth Raymond Mann born 3rd June 1915. He married Joyce Rebecca Talbot in Goondiwindi. He was a Prisoner of War at Changi and drowned on a POW ship.
MANN KENNETH RAYMOND : Service Number - QX10069 : Date of birth - 03 Jun 1915 : Place of birth - STANTHORPE QLD : Place of enlistment - TOOWOOMBA QLD : Next of Kin - MANN JOYCE 2/26 Battalion Member of A force
Kenneth captured by the Japanese during World War 2 and imprisoned in Changi POW camp. Towards the end of the war, the Japanese were transferring POWs to Japan. One of their POW ships was torpedoed by an American submarine, many of the prisoners, including Kenneth Mann survived the explosion but were later drowned. Kenneth was a member of the A.I.F. 2/26 BN., Australian Infantry and there is a memorial to his death at Labuan Memorial in Malaysia[
All through the war, groups of prisoners were transported around Japan’s
captured territories, usually in small, slow, overcrowded merchant
ships. Conditions aboard them were appalling. Even worse, over a
thousand Australian prisoners of war died when ships carrying them were
torpedoed by Allied submarines. The Japanese did not mark their ships or
advise the Allies of their movements. The ships sunk included the
Montevideo Maru (July 1942), the Kachidoki Maru and the Rokyu Maru
(September 1944).
Benjamin Robert Mann b 18 Dec 1916
He married Jessie Ina Brown in Lismore in 1946.
He died 10 March 1960 in Stanthorpe
He enlisted in WW2 SN QX25889
2/15 th AIF
Henry Charles Mann born 14th May 1920 Lived at 6 Templeton Street Boulia, and died 14th March 1981 He is buried at Boulia, commited suicide. Married Ruby
SN QX60123
Leslie David Mann b 4 Sep 1922 d 7 Jul 2005
Deception Bay QX24660 2/43 Australian Infantry Served in British North Bornea and Labaun.
He was married
Frederick Richard Mann b 24 Sept 1928 SN 13011 1st Battalion RAIC Korea 31st March 1954 to 16 January 1955
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James Mann was born 21st June 1882 in Stanthorpe and died 27th September 1935. He married Margaret Cummerford in 1906.
Ethel Edith Mann was born 29 May 1884
Harold Bernard Mann born November 1888 in Stanthorpe
and married May 1919 Margaret Elizabeth Shepherd. He died in 1960 at Texas in Queensland.
He served in World War I SN 1878 and was injured in France then joined again in World War 2, when he was 50.
Catharine Ann Mann was born 25th April 1886 and married Alexander McDonald June 1909 They had a son and a daughter.
That is all of John Joseph's children. Alexander's children look so much like their Uncle Harold Bernard Mann.
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The church sits on top of a hill we walked the gravestones but couldn't find any that related to any family names. In the 1700's spinning and weaving and the crushing of grain were the industries. They used the canal system to deliver goods to Belfast.
Time to reflect.
John MANN was born Abt 1808 in
Tandragee, Armagh, Ireland, and died in July 1887 in East Maitland New South Wales.Australia.
By 1869 Sarah and her husband Isaac are living at 6 Mile just south
Samuel Mann was in Drayton 1864 and probably on the council. He also is reported as shooting some strange birds, with web feet, which were quite rare, and he wanted to give them to the museum. 
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