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Thursday, November 13, 2014

30 Sarah Rogers married Hon Charles Montagu - Family and links to Parliament

Following from the Post 23. Sarah Rogers married Hon. Charles Montagu

They had several children 

Edward Montagu     b   1692     d  1776  m  Elizabeth Robinson
John Montagu          b   1692    d  1734  Lt Colonel on Foot  did not marry
Crewe Montagu       b   1696    d  1755  
Jemima Montagu     b   1695    d  1759   m  Sydney Meadows 22 May 1742

Among the family of these cousins are some absolutely fascinating and interesting stories, and while it has taken a long time to research and to understand this "family jigsaw" it was necessary to try to follow the family relationships!

Sarah's husband Hon Charles Montagu was an MP, and his sons followed in his footsteps.  His Paliamentary Biography indicates his relationships with his brothers, one in particular Hon. Sidney Wortley Montagu.

Charles Montagu                                                            
 Family and Education

b. c.1658, 5th s. of Edward Montagu†, 1st Earl of Sandwich, by Jemima, da. of John Crew†, 1st Baron Crew, of Stene, Northants.; bro. of Edward Montagu†, Visct. Hinchingbrooke, Hon. Oliver Montagu† and Hon. Sidney Wortley Montagu*.  educ. St. Neots g.s.; Trinity Coll. Camb. 1677; M. Temple 1677; Lincoln, Oxf. 1682.  m. (1) 3 Sept. 1685, Elizabeth, da. and coh. of Francis Forster of Easington Grange, co. Dur. and Belford, 1s.; (2) 31 Dec. 1691, Sarah, da. of John Rogers, merchant of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumb., 3s. 1da.1

Offices Held

Freeman, Durham 1683; constable, Durham Castle 1684–1715; v.-adm. co. Dur. 1685–90; spiritual chancellor of Durham dioc. 1687–90; sheriff, co. Dur. 1687–1709; alderman, Durham by 1687–d.; seneschal of Durham 1690–1709.2
Commr. for taking subscriptions to land bank, 1696.3


Son of a Huntingdonshire peer, Montagu accumulated numerous administrative offices in the county palatine and see of Durham prior to the Revolution. He owed this advancement to the patronage of his uncle Nathaniel Crew, bishop of Durham, and it was Crew’s continued favour in the 1690s that led to Montagu’s involvement in the north-east coal industry. Crew’s leases of mining rights to Montagu and his brother Sidney Wortley Montagu established the family among the region’s leading  coal proprietors, and by the end of the 17th century Montagu’s pits in north Northumberland and south Durham were producing over 100,000 tons p.a. 

His growing wealth is perhaps indicated by his inclusion in 1694 upon a list of subscribers to the Bank of England, in which he was listed as having sufficient stock to qualify for election as a director. The bishop had secured Montagu’s return for Durham in 1685, and presumably assisted his re-election for the borough in 1695. Suggestions that Montagu stand for Northumberland, where he had gained property through his first marriage, came to nothing. He retained the seat until the end of the reign, but most of the recorded parliamentary activity under the name of ‘Charles Montagu’ applies to Montagu’s prominent Junto Whig cousin and namesake, the future Lord Halifax. 

Probably due to his recent entry to the Commons, Montagu was initially listed as ‘doubtful’ in the forecast of January 1696 for the division on the council of trade, but this was later amended to indicate his likely support for the Court. In February he promptly signed the Association. In the following session he voted, on 25 Nov., for the attainder of Sir John Fenwick†, and a comparison of the old and new Commons dating from September 1698 classed him as a Court supporter. He voted on 18 Jan. 1699 against the disbanding bill, and in early 1700 an analysis of the Commons listed him as a follower of his cousin Charles. 

In December 1701 Robert Harley* classed him as a Whig. Montagu did not stand for Parliament in 1702 or, as far as can be ascertained, at any later election. Having retired from the Commons, he appears initially to have continued his leading role in the north-east coal trade, being a member of the ‘coal office’ established by a number of coal owners in the early 1700s to help secure markets for their product.

 By 1708, however, when a cartel was established to control the production and price of the region’s coal, it seems that his son James (III*) had taken over the management of the family’s mining interests.

 Montagu died at Breda and was buried at Barnwell All Saints, Northamptonshire, on 29 June 1721.

His son James Montagu from his first wife

A Whig under Queen Anne, Montagu was associated with his uncle Sidney Wortley in the cartel controlling the Tyneside coal trade in the early eighteenth century.3 Returned for Camelford in 1715, he voted with the Administration except on the peerage bill in 1719, which he opposed. 

Unsuccessful for Durham in 1722, and growing deaf, he spent the major part of his time at  Newbold Verdon, where he made great improvements to the house and grounds. 

In 1726 he sold the Belford estate, inherited from his mother, for £12,000. 

He died during a visit to London 30 Oct. 1748,4 leaving Newbold Verdon to his cousin, Edward Wortley* 

Their son Edward Montagu

Family and Education

bap. 13 Nov. 1692, 2nd s. of Hon. Charles Montagu, M.P., of Durham (5th s. of Edward Montagu, M.P., 1st Earl of Sandwich), being 1st s. by his 2nd w. Sarah, da. of John Rogers of Newcastle-upon-Tyne; bro. of James and John Montagu. educ. ?Eton 1706; Clare, Camb. 1710; L. Inn 1710. m. 5 Aug. 1742, Elizabeth, da. of Matthew Robinson of Edgeley and West Layton, Yorks., sis. of Matthew Robinson Morris, 2nd Baron Rokeby, 1s. d.v.p.


Edward Montagu, the husband of Elizabeth Montagu, the blue stocking, was a mathematician, interested in scientific pursuits, agriculture and estate management, but does not seem to have mixed much with his wife’s literary coterie.

During the minority of his cousin, the *4th Earl of Sandwich, (John Montagu son of Edward Montagu) he stood as a Whig for the family borough of Huntingdon, ousting his relation, Edward Wortley.

 In Parliament he voted consistently against successive Administrations in all recorded divisions. At the 1741 election he was again returned after a contested election in which the young Earl of Sandwich, then in opposition, ‘exerted himself’ on his behalf ‘with great vigour and success’.

He continued in opposition after Walpole’s fall, expressing the opinion that the proposal, in 1742, to take Hanoverian troops into British pay was to him ‘a worse thing than any ... attempted’ by Walpole and that ‘England is become a province to Hanover’.

 In a letter of 3 Dec. 1743 he describes himself as ‘one who loves Great Britain and is more concerned for his country than the fatal Elector of Hanover’.Before the general election of 1747 Sandwich, now a member of the Government, wrote to the Duke of Newcastle from The Hague:
I have obligations to Mr. Montagu, the present Member for Huntingdon, that will put me under great difficulties how to set him aside without subjecting myself to his reproach ... However, if I am upon the spot, I don’t at all doubt but that I can make him easy, and name anyone I please in his room that will cut the same part in public matters that I shall, which he never can be brought to do, since, though he is a very honest man, he will always be an opposer of all Administrations.
Sandwich also wrote to Pelham and to the Duke of Bedford in the same strain  In the end Montagu was again returned by Sandwich, who even paid £500 of his election expenses, but he continued to be classed as ‘against’ by Newcastle. From a letter to his wife on 30 June 1747, the day after the poll, it is clear that he had no idea of Sandwich’s real feelings towards him.

He died to May 1775.

Their son John Montagu

 From his Parliamentary Biography, it lists his parentage, as being the son of Charles Montagu who was also a MP 

Ref Volumes: 1715-1754

Published in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1715-1754, ed. R. Sedgwick, 1970
Available from Boydell and Brewer

He was a Soldier and a Captain in Brigader-General Vesey's Foot Soldiers 1716
Captain and Leiutenant Colonel in the 1st Foot Guards 1718
and a Leiutenant Colonel of 18 Foot in 1719

The foot guards were involved with the coronation of King George in 1715, and 

He may have been in the same unit as another John Montagu who was 2nd Duke of Montagu

MONTAGU, John (aft.1692-1734), of Westminster.  He was a Member of Parliament for Stockbridge between April and September 1734

Constituency Stockbridge

Dates 24 Apr. - 2 Sept. 1734

Family and Education

b. aft. 1662, 3rd s. of Hon. Charles Montagu, M.P., of Durham, being 2nd s. by his 2nd w.; bro. of Edward and James Montagu. unm.

Offices Held

Capt., Brig.-Gen. Vesey’s Ft. 1716; capt. and lt.-col. 1 Ft. Gds. 1718; lt.-col. 18 Ft. 1719.


The grandson of the first Earl of Sandwich, Montagu was returned as a Whig for Stockbridge in 1734 but died a few months later on 2 Sept

What an achievement, three sons all Members of Parliament.

Jacob Tillemans: the House of Commons c. 1710 (detail)
(c) Palace of Westminster Collection

Sarah and Charles' son Crewe Montagu vanished into thin air.  Apart from being mentioned in John Rogers will, there is nothing to be sourced regarding him, other than his date of birth, (baptised at St Nicholas Newcastle) and a date of death.  Unfortunately those dates have not been proved, but have come via different resources.

His name came from his grandmother Jemima Crewe, as did that of his sister, Jemima.

Their daughter Jemima Montagu.

Jemima  married Sir Sydney Meadows in 1742, and she died of cancer in 1759, without having children.

Sir Sydney Meadows was also an MP until 1740.  He never stood again whilst they were married.


PENRYN         1722 - 1727
TRURO            1727 - 1734
TAVISTOCK   1734 - 1741

Family and Education

b. c.1699,1st s. of Sir Philip Meadows, M.P., of St. Martin-in-the-Fields by Dorothy, da. of Edward Boscawen, M.P., sis. of Hugh Boscawen, 1st Visct. Falmouth. m. 2 June 1742, Jemima, da. of Hon. Charles Montagu of Durham (yst. s. of Edward Montagu, M.P., 1st Earl of Sandwich), s.p. suc. fa. 1757.

Offices Held Knight marshal Jan. 1758-d.   

In 1757 he succeeded his father and in 1758 he was appointed Knight Marshal, one of the judges (along with the Lord Steward of the Household) of the Marshalsea Court. He held this office until his death.

The Knight Marshal is a former office in the British Royal Household established by King Henry III in 1236. The position later became a Deputy to the Earl Marshal from the reign of Henry VIII until the office was abolished in 1846 .

The Knight Marshal and his men were responsible for maintaining order within the King's Court (Court of Marshalsea or Palace Court) which was abolished in 1849.

According to The Present State of the British Court, published in 1720,
"The Knight Marshal is an Officer employ'd in the King's Court or Marshalsea, and the Marshal's Men under him are properly the King's Bailiffs. They arrest in the Verge of the Court {i.e. within a 12 mile radius of the Sovereign's palace} when a Warrant is back'd by the Board of Green-cloth. The Knight Marshal and his Men have place in all publick Cavalcades, at Declaring of War, Proclaiming Peace, publick Entries and Processions made by the Soveraign."
The Knight Marshal was appointed by the Crown for life by letters patent under the great seal frequently in the form of grants in reversion. Board wages were fixed at £21 5s 10d in 1662. In 1685 a salary of £26 was provided. This was raised to £500 in 1790 but reduced to £271 in 1816.

The separate office of Knight Marischal exists in the Royal Household of Scotland, but has not been filled since 1863.


Meadows’s grandfather, Sir Philip Meadows, was Latin secretary to Cromwell, who sent him as ambassador to Portugal and Denmark; his father, M.P. Truro 1698-1700 and Tregony 1705-8, went as envoy to Vienna in 1707. Returned for Penryn and Truro on the Boscawen interest, he voted against the Administration in all recorded divisions, except that on the civil list arrears in 1729, from which he was absent.

 Chosen for Tavistock by the Duke of Bedford in 1734, he voted with the Opposition on the Spanish convention in 1739 and on the place bill in 1740. He never stood again.

In 1758 Meadows became knight marshal of the Marshalsea court in Southwark, a post which his father and grandfather had held, he and the lord steward of the Household acting as judges in this court. He died 15 Nov. 1792 ‘extremely rich in personal property as well as in land. It was said of him that he had not been on the east side of Bond Street more than twice a year for the last 30 years, and that was on his way to receive dividends at the bank’.1

His father was Philip MEADOWES,  (1672-1757), of St. Martin-in-the-Fields, Mdx.


TREGONY     1698 - 24 June 1700
TRURO          26 Nov. 1702 - 1705
TREGONY     1705 - 1708

Family and Education

bap. 21 May 1672, 2nd but 1st surv. s. of Sir Philip Meadowes of Chattisham, Suff. by Constance, da. and coh. of Francis Lucy of Westminster.  educ. matric. Trinity, Oxf. 1689; L. Inn 1690.  m. by 1697, Dorothy, da. of Edward Boscawen† of Wortherall and Roscarrock, Cornw. and sis. of Hugh Boscawen II*, 3s. 5da.  
Kntd. 23 Dec. 1700; suc. fa. 1718.1

Offices Held

Sir Philip Meadows (1626–1718)

by Godfrey Kneller

  • Date painted: c.1710
  • Oil on canvas, 74.2 x 61.6 cm
  • Collection: Colchester and Ipswich Museums Service                

Commr. excise 1698–1702; knight marshal 1700–d.; envoy extraordinary to Emperor 1706–9; jt. comptroller of army accts. 1708–aft.1719.2

Commr. Chelsea hosp.3


Meadowes’ father, an experienced official and diplomat whose career dated back to the 1650s, was one of the members of the council of trade appointed in 1696, a place he held into the reign of George I. Meadowes’ marriage into the Boscawen family no doubt explains his unsuccessful attempt to enter the Commons at the St. Mawes by-election in November 1696.

 In the summer of 1698 he was appointed an excise commissioner, a post carrying a salary of £800 p.a., and he was successful at the Tregony election of the same year. A comparison, dating from September, of the old and new Commons, classed him as a Court supporter, and on 18 Jan. 1699 he voted against the third reading of the disbanding bill. On 17 Feb. his name was given to the House as one of the Members who possessed offices in the revenue, and when the following year he was forced, by the place clause of the Grants Resumption Act, to choose between his place and his seat in the Commons, he opted for the former.

In October 1700 Meadowes was appointed knight marshal for life, a post for which he was reported to have paid its previous incumbent £5,000, and in December he was knighted at Windsor. Two years later he resigned from the excise commission in order to return to the Commons, though James Lowther* commented that following his resignation from this place Meadowes was ‘not without a prospect of another’, and he was returned at a by-election in Cornwall when his brother-in-law Sir Thomas Powys chose to sit for Tregony instead of Truro. 

Meadowes’ wife was the niece of Lord Treasurer Godolphin (Sidney†), and in 1703 Godolphin suggested him for the post of envoy to Holland. Meadowes hesitated whether or not to take the place, and when visiting Amsterdam ‘for two or three days’ in early 1704 he quickly took a dislike to Holland and returned home.

 Little is known of Meadowes’ contribution to the 1702 Parliament, but he did not vote for the Tack on 28 Nov. 1704, and early the following year was included upon a list of placemen. He transferred to Tregony at the 1705 election, and having been returned unopposed he was classed as a ‘High Church courtier’.

 On 25 Oct. he voted for the Court candidate as Speaker. At the end of 1706 Meadowes was appointed envoy to the Emperor, arriving at Vienna on 25 June 1707, and remaining there until August 1709. In his absence Meadowes was classed as a Whig in an analysis of the Commons dating from early 1708, and in April that year he was appointed, thanks to Godolphin’s patronage, joint comptroller of army accounts, worth £750 p.a.

 He did not stand at the 1708 or any subsequent election, but continued to hold minor government offices well into the Hanoverian period. Meadowes died at Brompton, Middlesex, on either 3 or 5 Dec. 1757.5

Charles' Brother Sir Eward Wortley Montagu - An introduction   

Sir Edward Wortley Montagu (1678-1761) politician and diplomat; Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire 1716-18

Palaces of Constantinople (Istanbul)
Sir Edward Wortley Montagu (8 February 1678 – 22 January 1761) was British Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, husband of the writer Lady Mary Wortley Montagu and father of the writer and traveller Edward Wortley Montagu.

Son of Sidney Wortley Montagu and grandson of Edward Montagu, 1st Earl of Sandwich, a Cambridge graduate and lawyer, Wortley Montagu was educated at Westminster School, Trinity College, Cambridge (1693) and trained in the law at the Middle Temple (1693), was called to the bar in 1699 and entered the Inner Temple in 1706.

He was best known for his correspondence with, seduction of, and elopement with the aristocratic writer, Mary, daughter of Evelyn Pierrepont, 1st Duke of Kingston-upon-Hull. They married in 1712. He succeeded his father in 1727, inheriting Wortley Hall.

Montagu himself was a prominent Whig politician, and was MP for Huntingdon before eventually becoming a Lord Commissioner of the Treasury from 1714 to 1715 and Ambassador to the Ottoman Porte in Constantinople from 1716 to 1718.

Fort based on an English design in Istnabul Old City
As Ambassador, he was charged with pursuing the ongoing negotiations between the Ottomans and the Habsburg Empire. Upon his return from Constantinople, he fell out with the Whig hierarchy, but remained a Member of Parliament for Huntingdon (1722–1734) and Peterborough (1734 until his death in 1761).

He left a large fortune to his daughter Mary, having in 1755 cut off his son Edward with a small allowance. Mary married the future Prime Minister, John Stuart, 3rd Earl of Bute. Sir Edward had bought and rebuilt Wortley Hall, near Barnsley in South Yorkshire, which also passed to his daughter.

Wortley Hall is a stately home in the small South Yorkshire village of Wortley, located south of Barnsley. For more than six decades the hall has been chiefly associated with the British Labour movement. It is currently used by several trades unions and other organisations as a venue for residential training courses and other meetings, as well as for purely social gatherings.

The building is constructed of sandstone ashlar with graduated slate roofs to an irregular floor plan, mostly in 2 storeys with a 7-bay south front. 

The hall is a licensed venue for wedding and civil partnership ceremonies, and is open to day visitors who wish to explore its formal gardens and extensive grounds.

A manor house at Wortley was rebuilt by Sir Richard Wortley in 1586. During the English Civil War his son Sir Francis Wortley, 1st Baronet, like his powerful ally Sir Thomas Wentworth of Wentworth Woodhouse, was a Royalist and fought for the King, allowing Wortley Hall to be used as a garrison for 150 dragoons.

 However in 1644 Sir Francis was captured and imprisoned in the Tower and on his release in 1649 obliged to pay a heavy fine to recover his property. Wortley then eventually descended to an illegitimate daughter  Anne, who married Sidney Montagu, second son of the Earl of Sandwich, c.1670.  

 *  She was a childhood friend of Sir Edwward Whortley Montague's wife.  
 (Her mother was unknown Newcomen- or was that Common)

The Hall was significantly remodelled by Giacomo Leoni in 1742–46 and the East Wing added in 1757–61 for Sir Edward Wortley Montagu, MP and Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire who died in 1761. 

He left it to his daughter Mary, who had married Prime Minister John Stuart, 3rd Earl of Bute. From her it passed in 1794 to their son, Colonel James Archibald Stuart (1747–1818), who added the surname Wortley to his own (and later also added Mackenzie). 

He left it to his son Colonel James Archibald (1776–1845) who was MP for Yorkshire from 1818 to 1826, when he was created Baron Wharncliffe.

Edward Montagu-Stuart-Wortley-Mackenzie, 3rd Baron Wharncliffe was created Earl of Wharncliffe in 1876. 

The Hall was the seat of the Earls of Wharncliffe until the Second World War, when it was used by the British Army, after which its structural condition deteriorated.

In 1950, a group of local trade union activists identified the hall as a possible educational and holiday centre, and established a co-operative which succeeded in purchasing the hall for those purposes. It was formally opened on 5 May 1951.

*Sidney Montagu had married a young lady called Anne Newcomen, the passionately loved and illegitimate daughter of Sir Francis Wortley, whose name he adopted when he inherited his rich estates. His children, Anne, Katherine and Edward, were known indifferently as Wortley or Montagu; precise people called them Wortley Montagu. Like Mary's mother, Anne Newcomen had been dead these many years. In the early eighteenth century quite a number of wives failed to survive the first ten years of matrimony.

And Mary had always taken an interest in Anne and Katherine, and some notice of the much older Edward. Their circumstances gave her a curious sense of parallel - a rakish and widowed father, a country estate, an admiration for bookishness and wit. Even before she was very intimate with them, she had a silly feeling that she knew them from some past, transfigured time. And as she knew them better, she could hardly get out of her head the dream that she was a changeling; that instead of her own two sisters and brother she was really of one blood with Anne and Katherine - and that strange, self-contained, serious, powerful and exasperating gentleman, Mr. Edward Wortley Montagu.

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