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Sunday, October 19, 2014

18 Ruth Herrick married George Rogers They had a son John Rogers who married Elizabeth Bonson

Who was George Rogers? 

From the Herrick papers and wills we know that he married Ruth Herrick and that he was a clerc and that he and Ruth had several children, and I do know he lived in Leicestershire, but other than that it has been a challenge.

In all my initial research, I went along with the information from others who had published information but I was uncomfortable with the ages list of different family members.

So to find who was George, I have spent ages in trying to unravel the mysteries.  Having visited Leicestershire gave me some background as to the area and the many towns that surround the city of Leicester.

Robert Herrick called him a clerc.  I couldn't understand why he would have approved George as a husband for Ruth if he was a mere clerk!

But clerc is also the name given to the clergy.

Eventually I found  the missing links, but not before I worked on those records of Ruth and George's son, John who married Margaret Cock. It was during these searches that I came to the conclusion that
George and Ruth are most likely the grandparents of our John Rogers, not the parents.


George and Ruth had the following children (that I have found)

George Rogers    born  1600
Henry Rogers      born  abt 1600
James Rogers      born abt 1600
Robert Rogers     born abt 1600
John Rogers        born 1601      married Elizabeth Bonson  1626    I believe this to be our line.*
Elizabeth Rogers born   1610    married to William Bent  1633  died 1647 in Cosby Leicestershire
Ruth Rogers         born 1611     married to John Jones  1632
Dorcas Rogers     born 1616

*Note the dates for the sons would range between 1600 and 1616.

There is evidence that Henry Rogers in about 1634 was involved in litigation

Registrar's certificate that he finds not that Henry Rogers has ever been sequestered for delinquency; but a Mr. Rogers, of Blaby, was returned from Leicester, 21 April 1648, in a list of ministers of that county, as sequestered and outed Subscribers-only content


*It followed in the tradition that children were named after their father, if they were the first born!




Back to George. 

From the Church of England archives I found reference to him being the Rector at Blaby in Leicestershire.   The Church is All Saints.  Blaby is about 3 miles south of Leicester.





In fact he was there for 42 years, and had a bit of a colourful life as the Reverend.

George attended Magadline College at Cambridge in 1590 and was the Rector of Blaby 1604.  

Source List of known students Cambridge       Image result for Magdalene college cambridge

How did George get into Cambridge?  Did he come from a wealthy London family, which would fit with the criteria that Robert Herrick had when chosing a husband for his daughters, or was he from the Church?  Had his father also gone to Cambridge?

Following that line and again in the Church of England records I found a Georgious Rogers who was the Chaplain at St Thomas's Church in Salisbury (Sarum) in 1550.  His father also was George.

This Georgious Rogers had a son Georgious, around the same birth date as our George.  To me that is a strong link because the Church Record of George Rogers shows his name as Georgius!

However there are two baptism records for Georgius Rogers, so apologies if I have an incorrect date or information.  Other than the record for Rev Georgious Rogers at St Thomas's Church I am unable to find him at either St Mary's or in Sutton at Cambridge.


Georgius Rogers
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 Apr 1564
Baptism Place: Sutton, Cambridge, England
Father: Georgii Rogers             

Georgius Rogers
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 6 Apr 1569
Baptism Place: Saint Marys,Hanley Castle,Worcester,England
FHL Film Number: 435361, 465263

No father's name is shown on the second listing.  The name Georgius is quite unusual.


From the Church Archives Relating to George Rogers

Cleric Detail
Surname
Rogers
Forename
Georgius
Title

Qualification
University

College

Year



In the Petersorough district


Event Type
Type
Faculty to be ordained deacon and priest at the same time
Date
31/1/1600  


Source
LPL, Whitgift's Register III (Register)
Bishop

Entered as letters dimissory addressed to Richard, Bishop of London and John, Suffragan Bishop of Colchester

From Leicester Records on line:  This is a description of the Advowson of Blaby


·         Advowson
·         Immediately after the Reformation the advowson was held by the Bishop of Lincoln, but it appears to have come into lay hands in the late sixteenth century.2 By the seventeenth century there appears to have been some dispute over the right of presentation, as rector George Rogers, inducted in 1604, claimed in 1646 to have spent most of his 42 years as rector defending his incumbency against someone called Stirton.3 In a record of 1605, the name of the patron has been amended at some point from Sir George Belgrave to the king.4 From 1662 the advowson was in the hands of the crown,5 and was administered by the Lord Chancellor from 1863.6 In 1874 the advowson was transferred to the Bishop of Peterborough by exchange for benefices outside the diocese.7

·         Rector John Legh, inducted in 1545, is reputed to have remained in office throughout the reigns of both Edward VI and Mary I.37 George Rogers, rector from 1604 to 1646, was a Royalist, and was charged by the county committee in 1646 on counts including being active for the Commission of Array and preventing parishioners from attending a parliamentary summons to resist the king’s forces.38  

Rogers appointed his son-in-law John Jones as curate, perhaps to care for Countesthorpe, and Jones was similarly articled against.39 Rogers was replaced in 1646 by Thomas Bosse, whose appointment was confirmed by the Crown in 1660. During his incumbency, Bosse was involved in a dispute regarding infant baptism (see Protestant Nonconformity below).40 At the primary visitation of Bishop Sanderson in 1662 it was reported that he had abandoned his living,41 and it was declared vacant that year.42

In 1603 the church was reported to have 300 communicants,43 and 281 in 1676.44 By 1721 the number of parishioners of communicable age was only 150, and of them only 30 usually took communion on the four occasions each year when it was offered, although there had been 50 communicants at Easter that year. 

Now George was responsible for the recording of all births, marriages and deaths in the Bishops Register, however between the years of 1639 and 1646 there are no records at all!

George died in 1654.   His will is held in the National Archives at Kew.




Will of George Rogers, Clerk of Blaby, Leicestershire
Date:
29 November 1654
Held by:
Legal status:
Public Record

Context of this record
PROB 11/241/558 - Will of George Rogers, Clerk of Blaby, Leicestershire









In sourcing my information I came across this from a discussion on line about the Rogers in Blaby.

Some of the Rogers actually from Blaby emigrated to the US and became some of the first settlers in 1600 in the time of the Mayflower period. Perhaps some were from George's family



No Rogers in Ashby Folville but Blaby seems to the very close or within that small local area. Rogers go back to the 1500's there with a George Rogers having a large family, including  son George 1600, John 1605,  Ruth 1611, Dorcas 1616 etc.      (These are our 8th Great aunts and uncles)

Early Rogers in Prestwold (as you say just across the village from Loughborough) beginning in the 1500's including another Elizabeth Rogers who married a Richard Roe in 1574. Other Prestwold Rogers continue on. You found the soldier, Thomas who married there from St Ives, who was a Rogers so maybe he was a cousin of theirs, visited and married a village girl. Since there was also that John Rogers "the stranger" who married a Jane in Loughborough about 10 years earlier perhaps he too was from St Ives and was Thomas' older brother.
 
And from the Rogers Family in US describing Cambridge another insight into some of the founding Roger's family.


Crossing the little river Can by an ancient stone bridge, we find ourselves in the manor of Moulsham. On the right a few rods from the bridge stands a dwelling house of Tudor times which is owned and occupied by a Rogers family who have possessed it from time immemorial. Of this family was John Rogers of Moulsham, born about 1510, who was great-grandfather of Rev. Nathaniel Rogers of Ipswich, Mass., who was the father of Rev. John Rogers, fifth president of Harvard College, and ancestor of our distinguished New England ministerial Rogers family. His descendants long claimed descent from the Marian martyr, Rev. John Rogers, a native of Warwickshire, who was burned at the stake in Smithfield, London, in 1555; but while the latter was thus displaying in fire his devotion to spiritual freedom, his contemporary John, the ancestor of the New England Rogers family, was making shoes in Moulsham. Among the modern objects of interest in Chelmsford are the buildings housing the famous grammar school of Edward VI, founded in 1551, and a bronze statue














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